Raiza Martin is a senior product manager for AI at Google Labs, where she leads the team behind NotebookLM, an AI-powered research tool that includes a delightful podcast-on-demand feature called “Audio Overviews.” NotebookLM started as a 20% project and has grown into a product that’s spreading across social media and has a Discord server with over 60,000 users. Raiza previously worked on AI Test Kitchen and has a background in startups, payments, and ads. In our conversation, we discuss: • The origin story of NotebookLM • The future road map for NotebookLM • How Google Labs operates differently from the rest of Google • The development of the “Audio Overviews” feature • Key metrics and growth of NotebookLM • Stories about collaborating with author Steven Johnson • Navigating potential misuse of AI technology — Brought to you by: • Explo — Embed customer-facing analytics in your product • Sprig⁠⁠ — Build products for people, not data points • Sidebar — Accelerate your career by surrounding yourself with extraordinary peers — Find the transcript and show notes at: lennysnewsletter.com/p/googles-… — Where to find Raiza Martin: • X: x.com/raiza_abubakar • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/whatsaraiza — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: lennysnewsletter.com • X: twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky — In this episode, we cover: — Production and marketing by . For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. — Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.