Kunal Shah is one of the most well-known and admired product leaders in India. He is the CEO and founder of CRED, an Indian-based fintech startup valued at over $6 billion. Prior to CRED, he founded three other startups, including Freecharge, which he sold for over $400 million to Snapdeal. He has also been an advisor to India’s most influential organizations. In our conversation, we discuss: • The prevalence of successful Indian immigrants in top CEO roles across the tech industry • Why companies in India can grow DAUs but not ARPU—and what that means for building products for India • What most sets India’s market apart • Challenges and opportunities in the Indian market • The Delta 4 framework for building new products • Lessons from building CRED so far • The power of curiosity and second-order thinking • Lessons from failure — Brought to you by: • WorkOS—The modern API for auth and user identity • Orb—The flexible billing engine for modern pricing • Dovetail—Bring your customer into every decision — Find the transcript and references at: lennysnewsletter.com/p/kunal-sh… — Where to find Kunal Shah: • X: twitter.com/kunalb11 • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kunalshah1 • Podcast: youtube.com/@CRED_club — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: lennysnewsletter.com • X: twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: — In this episode, we cover: — Production and marketing by . For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com. — Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.