Alex and Ellis sit down with Dan Shipper, CEO of Every, to talk about what it actually looks like to be the most AI-pilled company that isn't a frontier lab. They get into how Dan uses ChatGPT Voice to read Heidegger at 6am, why he accidentally spent 2 billion tokens overnight, and why he thinks OpenAI just pulled off something that almost never happens in tech. They also discuss what the new Siri could do to ChatGPT, and whether that's the Instagram Stories moment for the assistant market, why the developers building at the edge today are a 12-month preview of what every knowledge worker will be doing next, and what "after automation" means for people whose job is to have original ideas. Then Alex and Ellis reflect on one year of Access, why they're winding the show down, and what's next for both of them.

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