Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Ind., talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his campaign for president of the United States. In this episode: Systemic racism and Buttigieg's "Douglass Plan"; mobilizing black women voters; how to appeal to Trump supporters who wanted to "burn the house down"; reforming the Supreme Court; the “mystical fascination” with the Rust Belt; climate change and rural America; why Buttigieg hasn’t attacked tech as much as some of his opponents; should Americans have a right to be forgotten online?; recognizing gig workers as employees with the right to unionize; will more regulation make it harder to compete with China?; Buttigieg's wealthy tech donors; being gay in the military; will voters care that he is gay?; his husband and LGBT visibility in politics; AOC’s “squad” vs. Nancy Pelosi; and Buttigieg's favorite president, Abraham Lincoln. Recode Decode has been nominated for best technology podcast in this year’s People’s Choice Podcast Awards! Cast your vote for Recode Decode at podcastawards.com/app/signup↗ before July 31st. One vote per category. Interested in hearing more from Mayor Pete Buttigieg? Check out his conversation with Vox’s editor-at-large Ezra Klein on The Ezra Klein Show. vox.com/2019/4/1/18290849/pete-…↗ Message Input Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices