Actor and producer Natasha Lyonne (Russian Doll, Orange Is the New Black) and Netflix's vice president of original content Cindy Holland talk with Recode's Kara Swisher at the 2019 Code Conference. In this episode: How Lyonne got connected with Netflix; Holland’s background at Kozmo.com; Orange is the New Black; the Netflix way of doing things; developing Russian Doll; Netflix’s cancelation of One Day at a Time; how it evaluates creators like Lyonne; the production process of Russian Doll; how Netflix has changed over time; is Russian doll a "hit?”; the dissolving barriers between types of content and different screens; releasing Alfonso Cuaron’s Roma in theaters and on Netflix simultaneously; Netflix’s competition; and season two of Russian Doll. Recode Decode has been nominated for best technology podcast in this year’s People’s Choice Podcast Awards! Cast your vote for Recode Decode at podcastawards.com/app/signup↗ before July 31st. One vote per category. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices